DOW 20K: Is The Stock Market Really Setting New Highs? Mike Maloney

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Is the stock market really making new highs? Or is it just an illusion? “The longer this party goes on, the worse it’s going to be for the average investor.” – Mike Maloney. In this video, Mike shows you that despite the all-time record high set by the Dow Jones Industrial Average, stocks are actually worth less today than they were years ago. He proves this by measuring the historical values of the Dow in oil, copper, and gold and comparing them to today. You’ll see what’s driving stocks higher and higher and why a crash is coming. Learn how it works here: If you enjoyed watching this video, be sure to check out the Hidden Secrets of Money website at . It’s a world-leading educational series by Mike Maloney, the bestselling author of the Guide to Investing in Gold & Silver. As Mike explains in the series and his book, we live in an economic system that is made complicated by design. Basically, it’s set up so most people don’t even try to understand it. In Mike’s videos, he breaks down these concepts using easy-to-follow analogies, real pages from history, and animations that tie it all together.
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49 thoughts on “DOW 20K: Is The Stock Market Really Setting New Highs? Mike Maloney

    1. @LibertarianTV
      Well, your statements are still wrong. QE has not ended. pretty much all QE
      brought into existance in the US is still there. its just not growing, at
      the moment. the ECB took the torch, but it will be passed on in turn, and i
      would wager it will return to the US at some point.
      And “stocks have been rising following the increase of profits” is also
      false. Just google “pe ratio s&p 500”. Only twice in the history of mankind
      has it been higher and that was before the techbubble burst and the crash
      of 08-09. it’s no where near the previous peaks, but saying “value is
      following profits” is untrue. it’s a bubble in the making.

      you are totally right about malony giving bad advice in 2010 since there
      has been alot more profit in stocks. but that demands that u actually sell
      those stock before a future crash sets u back at inital, or less, money. i
      see no signs of PMs losing me money/value unless forced to sell today, in
      which case u overbought.

  1. Thanks for clicking the ‘Like’ button to offset the 4 dislikes that were
    placed before this video was 2 minutes old – ie, hadn’t even been watched
    lol.

    1. +Milo Y I wasn’t saying whether it did or not, just that it’s the best way
      to compare how it’s doing. It needs to stay ahead of the cost of living in
      order to really be ahead. If it goes up 5%, but inflation is 5%, then
      there is no real gain.

  2. that was a really good video Mike! you sounded so animated at the
    beginning! Super informative video. I haven’t seen the perspectives offered
    in this video anywhere else.

    1. +Milo Y ya fun but it’s a once in a while game my brother in law has box
      seats sea Hawks! He takes me once in awhile beer is to expensive! It’s fun
      but it’s rare thing, I watch from home were it close to my BBQ & fridge! I
      hope they finish the Constitution down town it is not the same! I miss the
      P&I my Aunty use to spoil me as a kid over by you! Also
      Loved the expo 86, that was a fun event!

    2. Bellevue is my bread & butter! Lots of carpet cleaning over there I have
      commercial accounts that pay very well some up to 2k a day! Trader Joe’s
      some of the best cheap wine also, not sure if you guys have them over there!

    3. +Milo Y my home was cheap 12 years ago but it’s over a million now! I for
      saw the waterfront Price’s! Will see what happens after April, seems to be
      that breeding time of year people lose there mind and bid every thing up!
      To much taxes!

    4. +Milo Y i was just checking out road to Roota, kind of interesting a must
      to YouTube! Ya I do like the base ball cheap seats, the stadium is awesome
      love the fries too! Stay away from the 2 buck Chuck but others are a little
      more but not much can’t remember the name but in the morning I check out my
      stash & let you know! Ya the North West is really good place to live! Trump
      is going to bring our $ down a bit as we have been watching so it might be
      a timing thing for you! Well my wife gave me the elbow which means my
      YouTube insider trading has to wait tell tomorrow! Cheers!

    1. ivan beers…there have already been a number of market crashes since the
      60s….dow lost 45% of its value in 1974, between 2000 and 2003 s&p dropped
      50%, nasdaq 78%, and of course in 2008 just about every stock market lost
      60% of its value or more. The next crash threatens to be even more
      severe…of course the markets eventually recovered and i believe are
      likely to do so again this time around (i hope!)…but how long do you want
      to wait to break even? if we are lucky, maybe we will break even in a few
      years after the next crash…but then again, maybe we won’t be so
      lucky…the dow peaked in 1929 at 400 before losing 90% of its value over
      the next 3 years…it wasn’t until 1954 that it breached the 400 level
      again …25 years….(although in fairness factoring in reinvested
      dividends and inflation you would have broken even before then, but
      still…you had to wait many years before you broke even)

      A more recent example…if you bought into the nasdaq in 2000 you would
      have had to wait until 2016 before you broke even in nominal terms….in
      real, inflation-adjusted terms , you would still be underwater….17 years
      later…
      Why would you subject yourself and your portfolio to this kind of financial
      risk if there is a way to protect yourself ?
      Can you afford not to protect yourself? But the first step is to recognize
      the danger and to recognize that crashes have already occurred…and could
      be worse moving forward…But anyways..your money, your choice..Good luck

    1. jazzjackrabbits…markets are not efficient…they are not able to discount
      the business cycle…markets are only able to anticipate financial/economic
      events 6 months in advance…but i find it very curious that markets behave
      as if the market participants have never heard of something called the
      business cycle (specifically the 3-4 year inventory cycle). If markets were
      efficient then they should be able to discount the lowered corporate
      profitability that arises during the downcycle part of the cycle and not
      behave so euphorically when profitability rebounds during the next
      inevitable rebound…in other words, efficient and i believe by
      implication, rational markets should display valuation volatility that
      oscillates within a relatively narrow band…but this is not the case in
      real life…especially during market tops (which i believe we are in now)
      valuations are generally out of whack with the underlying economic
      fundamentals… case in point…nasdaq stock market in the year 2000 topped
      out at 5000 which corresponded to an average PE ratio of about
      250….that’s the equivalent of paying for 250 years of profitability
      today, which carries the implication of having to wait around for 250 years
      to collect your 250 years worth of profits (to break even in other words).
      Does that seem like an efficient , rational market to you?

      Of course, the inevitable market collapse occurred and from 2000 to October
      2002, the nasdaq lost 78% of its value. and btw the market had already lost
      most its value by the time 911 occured , so don’t say 911 caused the
      2000-2003 tech wreck…the tech wreck was the inevitable reaction to the
      dot.com bubble that preceded it which had nothing to do with market
      efficiency nor rationality

      “How’s gold working out for your average investor?” well that all depends
      on when they got in doesn’t it? if they got in early, they did well for
      themselves, if not, well then not so much…but that’s the way it is with
      every investment
      mania/bubble…those that get in early profit, those that don’t lose…the
      fundamental question at this point is whether this gold bubble/mania bubble
      is over or is it really just beginning..i favor the latter based on
      valuation considerations (dow/gold ratio, gold price monetary base ratio to
      name a few – check out macrotrends website under
      precious metals tab)

    2. Conspiracy theories? What conspiracy theories? The business cycle is a
      conspiracy theory? The markets are not wrong per se…they’re just
      extremely short-sighted….in other words, they are kind of dumb, because
      the people driving markets are short-sighted and especially during market
      tops allow their emotions (greed) cloud their judgement…is it your
      position that a 250 PE ratio on the nasdaq in 2000 was both rational and
      efficient processing of public information?

    3. the evidence for business cycles are based on historical data
      series…anyone can look it up to see the evidence for themselves….with
      respect to prices being a random walk you raise an interesting
      point…Benoit Mandelbrot wrote an article for Scientific American in the
      late 90s (don’t remember exact date) called “A multi-fractal walk down wall
      street” He showed that observed market volatility was far too high if we
      assumed that prices follow a random walk. He showed that the frequency of
      severe market crashes was incompatible with such a model. In other words
      market returns are fat-tailed. this is why Wall Street has to hire quants
      (usually physics PH.D graduates) to “adjust” financial theoretical economic
      models (based on random walks) to bring them in line with reality.

      But let me ask you something else, if market prices are a random walk, then
      why does the frequency of crashes correlate with excessive leverage and
      debt levels? Is it your position that the 2008 GFM had nothing to do with
      the massive build -up of mortgage debt?

      Also, if business cycles are a conspiracy, then is it your position that
      the recessions that regularly occur as a result of the operation of the
      business cycle..are they a conspiracy too? So does that mean that all post
      WW2 recessions that have occurred didn’t actually happen? that they were a
      figment of our collective imagination?

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