On The Record #1 – Anthem Gold & AGLD Tokens

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Welcome to WCN new podcast On The Record where we will be asking tough questions to those launching products in the Crypto Space. In this episode we talk to Anthem Hayak Blanchard who is planning to launch a Gold Backed Token on the Ethereum Blockchain. We talk about the function of the token along with regulatory concerns. Some of the more challenging questions sorounded the use of Ethereum and posibility of another Fork. The difference between this product and E-Gold and also how a gold storage fee will be enforced onto the token value. Thank you all for listening and live participation.

Guest: Anthem Hayek Blanchard
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33 thoughts on “On The Record #1 – Anthem Gold & AGLD Tokens

  1. @ToneVays Would definitely recommend you spend more time doing these type of shows than wasting your time on the scams. Although these ponzi and scam schemes should be called out i think you could do it without wasting so much of your time. Probably much better for your blood pressure too 😉

  2. so other when speculating on the token, once again, what is the advantage of buying gold through them, compare to buying physical gold myself???
    Doesn’t smell right…or maybe I’m just stupid. In any-case, I’m sticking with btc.

    1. To my understanding, Digix gold token is yet to launch, only their DAO token. We are releasing AGLD/anthems as a simple token backed each backed by a gram of physical gold. The 1-to-1 quantity will be authenticated through decentralized database aka blockchain entries tied with mass innovation within the vaulting facility. In short, similar to blockchain technology watches the watchmen.

    2. Thanks for your return Anthem, but i still don’t grasp it. Blockchains by themselves don’t watch anything in real life. They do provide inputs for controling buys and sells of real life quantities of gold… just this.

      I mean, i believe in you but how transparency can be achieved here? How can you prove physical existence of a certain ammount of gold?

      Let’s say you use GLD ETF as reference and showed us your buy and sell orders in a particular book of orders just for AGLD tokens… that could be used to compared it (by volume and by broker) with BATS numbers. right?

      I know you won’t procedure like this, but do you get it? Uphold tries something similar, but only shows me this:
      https://uphold.com/en/transparency

    3. What is the point of using a (decentralized) blockchain for accounting/ledger, but storing the gold in a highly centralized context (i.e. a vault & storage facility managed by Anthem Gold)? How can you possibly guarantee that nothing fishy will happen *ever* between the amount of gold you report to be holding in the vault, and the amount of tokens issued? Blockchains are useful for decentralizing trust; it seems like marrying a blockchain with a centralized vault is a challenging marriage that might not end well.

    4. Thanks for your patience with my reply Bruno. Blockchains when deployed in specific ways can be used to assist in real-time accounting. We are developing to enable an AGLD owner the ability to trace the AGLD in their wallet to the portion of gold bars accountable for physical gold backing their AGLD. We are implementing transparency features for AnthemGold vaulted metal currently unprecedented in the metal vaulting industry at our nuclear-resistant bunker in Texas.

      If you are interested in learning more about and being a part of the AnthemGold team directly, we are currently unlisted at this link on online investment platform BnkToTheFuture: https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/anthem-gold/landing

    5. Thanks for your patience with my reply Matt. As per my response to Bruno, Blockchains when deployed in specific ways can be used to assist in real-time accounting. We are developing to enable an AGLD owner the ability to trace the AGLD in their wallet to the portion of gold bars accountable for the physical gold backing their AGLD. We are implementing transparency features for AnthemGold vaulted metal currently unprecedented in the metal vaulting industry at our nuclear-resistant bunker in Texas.

    1. Good question. This is a reason blockchain is useful for us. It allows us to publicly authenticate there’s a physical gram of gold for every 1 AGLD/anthem.

  3. I was a early adopter of the Canadian concept of “Bitgold” while was in beta and before it became “Goldmoney.com”, so this caught my interest. The problem is… You still have to compete with the likes of Jamie Diamond’s and JPM’s ability to naked short sell metal derivatives. There are more contracts out there than physical metal. It would be nice to see metal rise again and force those that sell contracts to go to the market place and pay full spot price to settle, it’s happened before, It could happen again.

    Thanks guys, interesting chat. I will look out for the ICO. I could KYC myself and sell it to someone who wants to stay anonymous for a premium on day one. Shame it’s gold and not silver though. Gold is a basket case, heavily manipulated and on it’s way to $700

    1. Thanks for your patience with my reply Paula. Note GoldMoney.com predated Bitgold by a few years as I worked at GoldMoney.com from 2002 to 2008 in a wide range of roles varying from director of strategic development and marketing to board secretary and my father James U Blanchard III was the 6th investor in GoldMoney. I am grateful for the experience provided to me by James and Geoff Turk and the former team. Ultimately, I think the demand dynamics for physical gold will overwhelm the derivative shorts.

      We have plans for silver as well. Note we are building on our team’s experience at GoldMoney to create a decentralized version at AnthemGold. If you are interested in learning more, AnthemGold is currently unlisted at this link: https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/anthem-gold/landing

  4. Why is buying AGLD token(s) better than simply buying the GLD ETF? Overall AGLD tokens sound convoluted and potentially scammy to me, I wouldn’t jump in on this for quite a while.

    1. Thank you for your question Matt. It is a good one. The difference is GLD ETF contains multiple layers of credit risk due to bank operators serving as trustee (BNY Mellon) and custodian (HSBC). Also all GLD ETF shares must be held in ‘street name’ and can only be purchased and sold through stock brokerage accounts except in extremely large tranches.

      Physical gold for AGLD tokens on the other is going to be held at a nonbank custodian and nonbank vaulting company in the form of 1kg bars. This structure protects the gold backing AGLD tokens from being partially or fully confiscated due to a bank insolvency event as even off balance sheet items touched by a bank are susceptible to being seized in a bank bankruptcy. AGLD token holders receive the benefit warehouse and property laws which fully protects all gold property backing AGLD tokens from any creditors in the case of AnthemGold or any other nonbank operators we use becomes insolvent.

    2. Thanks Anthem. So to summarize, you’re saying that the AGLD credit risk is superior to GDL’s because it relies on bank custodians?

      > confiscated due to a bank insolvency event as even off balance sheet items touched by a bank are susceptible to being seized in a bank bankruptcy

      Why would off-balance sheet custodial assets be confiscated in a bank insolvency event? I have never heard that but then again we haven’t had a large bank insolvency in my lifetime (yet).

  5. “Gold has protected people for millennia.” – Anthem

    Well, what happened in 2008? Why did gold collapse in price with all the other assets if it’s such good protection? I think the argument that “gold is valuable because it has been historically” is weak.

    1. Matt gold collapsed because the stock market collapsed. when stocks collapse companies go out of business. when that happens people lose jobs. when people lose jobs the last thing they care about is buying gold with what ever money they can scrape together. if you click my name you might like my chat with Andy Hoffman about Gold Manipulation on my CryptoScam podcast

    2. @Tone Vays yep, I’ve heard that reasoning/story from you and others before. It’s the whole “flight from risk/to safe havens” story – I’m just pointing out that Anthem’s claim that gold “protects” people might not be true, particularly during Black Swan events like financial crises when the ‘protection’ is most necessary.

  6. Seems fine and legal; however, it might be redundant. Why not just buy part in gold etf?

    Secondly, is it like a bearer bonds for gold?

    Just changed my mind when I heard about the storage fee being taken from the gold they store.

    1. Thanks for your patience with my reply Yakntoro. See my reply below to Matt about the difference between ANTHEMS or AGLD and GLD ETF. AGLD are simply tokens backed 1:1 by .9999 fine physical gold on the Ethereum world computer network.

  7. Impressive. AHB has deep background knowledge and experience. He’s thought this through from A-Z – and his venture will evolve and improve. Tone was probing well, as always, but found no real chinks I think. Tone worries too much about damned gov reg compliances, even future imagined ones… Well done!

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