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Bitcoin news for the week of Dec 12th with @theonevortex, @tonevays and sharkybit
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Our special guest Victoria had to cancel tonight but we’ll get her on another time 🙂
Topics:
-Bitcoin’s Rally Crushed Every Other Currency in 2016. How did this happen?
-The fed issued it’s first rate hike of the year, what does this mean for bitcoin?
-What can we expect from bitcoin in 2017? We ask our panelists.
Links:
Aww so sorry to have missed the special guest Victoria…Never heard of
Victoria before tonight lol but I have come to expect good things here so
looking forward to hearing from her soon guys! until then what should i
know about her? #WomenInCrypto #WomenInBitcoin #ILoveNerds #GeekSpeak
People could give bitcoin as a birthday present.
Just explain somebody how to install a wallet on there phone and send them
a small amount.
They will learn and talk about it. Original present idea and great
marketing :)
I do not do that, I’m tiered of everyone i know losing their private keys,
they have to want it and know what they are doing.
Good point 🙂 Could you please give me the link to your article were you
think next year in august bitcoin will drop in price? Or did I understand
you incorrectly?
Bullish events?
– CLSA Sees China’s Yuan Plunging 19% by 2017;
– ETF Winkelvos for bitcoin on January 10, 2017;
– Megaupload 2.0 (Bitcache)is set for release on January 27, 2017;
– ETF SolidX Bitcoin Trust (XBTC) decision January 29, 2017.
Is there any chance that bitcoin could grow in popularity faster than
liquidity provided?
I would not say liquidity cause a bitcoin is infinitely divisible and hence
deflationary. If bitcoin starts growing two quickly there are several other
problems. The chain could get backlogged cause without SegWit and Lightning
we are still only at 3 transactions per second and because there are not
that many bitcoins the price can go up quickly and then crash… 2013 all
over again with a 10,000% rise in price followed by a 80% correction (from
$10 to $1000+ to $150). If you look at the history of gold price the 1800
you will see similar bubbles in the price of gold and perhaps why the
Government did not want to use it as a currency when other options became
available.
+Tone Vays You’re right. I look at Bitcoin as digital gold/cash. (Tell me
if I’m wrong for thinking in this manner). Back when the US dollar was
based on the gold standard, most of the crashes were caused by the money
supply not being liquid enough to allow debts to be paid. Bitcoin is a
different matter unless society starts having Bitcoin banks that can create
money based on lending out money it doesn’t have. Then Bitcoin will need a
global system of debt write downs or massive on-demand (maybe even
governmental) mining operations to handle that problem.
In terms of the transaction speed issues, you are right. Segwit and the
lightning network are necessities to prevent immobilisation of payments.
Finally, what’s are good hard/physical private wallets for BTC. Is Keep Key
any good?
About India: small transactions have an important contribution to the
liquidity.
great video again guys! in many cases I agree with Tone’s points, however
in this video I respectively disagree with one in particular. his point
about buying 1000 suits with the stock market purchased 100 yrs ago has 2
big flaws:
1) which stocks do you buy? thus, selection bias, an inherent risk that
gold does not possess.
2) if you buy an index, which didn’t exist a 100 yrs ago, you’re faced with
survivorship bias. ie most of the stocks comprising an index today didn’t
exist 100 yrs ago. thus, what happened to the stocks that failed and we’re
booted from the index?
gold possess neither risk 1 or 2.
mkmstillstackin thanks for the convo…so having said all the above…I
personally hold some physical gold and silver and protect it with a gun 🙂
“I see gold going under $1000 in the near future while SPX goes past 3,000
(yes i might be wrong). ”
I think i’m gonna take the other side of this bet, but if you’re right,
i’ll be buying hand over fist!
Tone Vays you’re welcome and good stuff!
gold will bottom out at just under 1000, this will occur 2017 or ear 2018.
keep in mind the best time annually to buy the PMs are early Jan into Feb.
We may have two more lows, the lowest at 900 something, then Maloney’s
inflation will happen closer to 2019 and monetary havoc will ensue, like
Tone says, Euro vanishes, etc…
davematherly yup that sounds a lot like views though I have not seen or
heard any of Maloney’s thoughts on the subject in 3-4 years
Tone: “Interest rates are set by the market”
– Then why is there a FED?
Martin Armstrong says the same thing.
He says the Fed is more of a front, pretending to be in control to instill
CONfidence.
Its a confidence game and they are CON-fidence artists. Nothing more.
Armstrong also says the Dow will go to at least 30,000 maybe much higher
before it tops out.
He says NO MARKET EVER hits its top multiple times, which is how he see the
Dow today.
20000 is simply resistance in his opinion.
davematherly yes, I like Armstrong a lot for macro stuff but not as much
for micro
https://primedice.com/?c=Faris93 safe dice
Got to love vortex, brilliant show mate.
Thanks man, we love to talk bitcoin! 🙂
Nice show, guys.
Tone, I understood your claim for a stock market overshoot when all those
bubbles (mainly in the bond market) burst. But, there is a catch here.
You are considering that all excessive money flees from bond market… but
no, the majority of it will be simply destroyed by governments (possible
defaults). Like you, i see money seeking safety places, but they are very
small at this moment (bitcoin ir metals)
The question is: would the “surviving money” from the bond markets still go
to stock markets? On your favour, tone, it is a relative big market and
could absorve it. In the other hand, we now have expensive multiples (but
those wall street guys seemed not to care much to this lol)..
So, what do you say?
Bruno AP81 commodities like Oil and soybeans are not investment options for
retirement funds as they are too volatile they are also going down so why
would any manager buy them now? Currencies are also not options for pention
funds or 401k funds. do you want to hold your retirement in Euros? how
about the Yen? these are things for hedge fund to speculate on.
Gold does not provide any returns…. It would be career ending for any
pension fund manager to hold peoples accounts in Gold long term.
Tone Vays You are right, but remember also that pension and previdential
funds tend to be conservative and very burocratichal, halving rigid limits
to stock markets (in my country, Brazil, they are very limited to about
only 30℅ in equities). In America and Europe they must have a limited also,
and I believe they are in it right now! So there wont be a huge run to
equities by their part, right?
Those laws were created during a 35yr bull run in bonds (not sure about
Brazil). So when you have a generation of people that have only seen yields
fall and bond prices rise since 1980 they would see Bonds as safe and
stable (Just like Real Estate only goes up…oops 2008). Once bond
portfolios start having negative returns as Stocks Make new highs those
laws will change and they will change quickly as a lot of the same
politicians that made those laws will see their retirement accounts in the
red a second straight year as Equities make new highs.
Tone Vays As a brazilian, seeing the developed nations becoming more and
more third world hell holes like here, I don’t believe in that efficiency
lol.
And thanks for this conversation, very inspiring and you convinced me that
there is a bull force for the stocks afterall (we only disagree in the
intensite of it).
Love the neckbeard Vortex!
Haha you know it! 🙂
Great stewardship of the show Vortex, I would send you $10 worth of bitcoin
for your efforts if you had a donation address – Maidsafe looking good at
the moment – I invested a few bitcoins into it and whether i win lose or
draw I want them to succeed with their encrypted Serverless internet.
Hah thanks Alfred! I don’t take donations, or sponsors on the show because
I want it to be as pure as possible. The only thing I’d ever consider would
be creating a patreon account some day but for now I make enough at my
dayjob:)
As for maidsafe I am also very excited though they are not the only game in
town of course, I really don’t mind which protocol succeeds as long as it
allows for a decentralized and encrypted by default connection.
vortex you’re the man. doesn’t even take donations. love it.
The Fed originally created to be lender of last resort, now the buyer of
last resort. Don’t forget there were 3 central banks here before the Fed:
Bank Of United States + 2 Bank of North Americas. This Fed will end one day
too.
Great video guys, except for the Barry Sillbert section.
That guy is a con artist. Never to be trusted. He is an anarchist and wants
ETH foundation to be shaken. He has been manipulating ETC and ETH using his
tweets. I wont even bother reading his tweets
Mandar Karhade I may not go that far but I have been very critical of him
publicly supporting ETC, even though I am biased myself against ETH and
would love to see ETC rise at its expense, I felt that it was not
appropriate for him to do that. I’m too lazy to find those “Bitcoin Group”
videos.
I will agree that I am new to your channel and recently started watching
last 4-5 videos. I just get a general vibe on Barry that he has nothing to
do with the fundamentals. His actions seem to me unfair to the crypto world
especially in light of DAO hack and how much people got burnt. He seems to
love playing with public sentiment to manipulate market.
On the other note, I am surprised that you would like ETC to prosper at
expense of ETH. Why is that? if you guys have already discussed it at
length somewhere, can you please direct me to that video? I will love to
know.
Mandar Karhade the best way to find it is to search my blog for ethereum
classic then read the TLDRs on the videos (I recommend watching in order,
101 then 102 then 103)
http://www.libertylifetrail.com/?s=Ethereum+classic
Thank you so much. Keep up the good work. I will definitely look into those
We have seen how the Committee of 300/FED-backed syndicate have SLAMMED
precious metals. Is Bitcoin immune from such slamming?
According to the charts, it appears so. Bitcoin is completely decoupling
from all other assets.
+vortex
I really enjoyed your video with your two guests. Sorry the lady didn’t
make it. But, the two you had – plus your own input was great. I think you
would be a great guest on the Greg Hunter WatchdogUSA channel. Since
Bitcoin is getting a lot of attention – having an expert to explain things
would help people understand what’s going on. Keep up the great work.
Regarding 2017 predictions:
Would be nice to see PayPal and Square integrate with Bitcoin, lowering
transaction fees for vendors.
The predictions about Amazon or Netflix adopting Bitcoin is intriguing.
Microsoft/Gates may introduce a contender and try to force adoption. I hope
that doesn’t happen and that the Cadillac standard (Bitcoin) continues to
dominate.
With The Committee of 300/One World Government forces pushing for digital
money throughout the world – we may see them actually helping for the
adoption of Bitcoin – and the elimination of cash. Once the vast majority
of world citizens are using Bitcoin, then they will make their move to
control it. But, in the meantime, since it dovetails with their goals, and
they want to continue to keep precious metals down (while they corner the
market), Bitcoin is their friend.
wow a good show, A show about bitcoin that not full of FUD about other
software. The original bitcoin idea was too to increase to 2mb… Other
people came into bitcoin and wanted segway..
Good show guys!
Dan Mathewson thanks
Tone should know that providing market information to the masses can be
construed as giving financial advice to his followers.
I forgot the name of the rapper but I think he’s still in jail for tweeting
to his followers how great apple had done for him and for all his fans to
buy apple.
They came down on him quick and hard.
davematherly would love to read that story but I also make sure I stay away
from individual stocks and companies, just general markets. (currency,
Commodity, Equity Index). there is also no such thing as insider trading
when it comes to these things.
+Tone Vays correct, I was wondering how specific you get with your work on
your site. The rapper specified apple, and suggested all his twitter
followers to buy apple, didn’t take long before a grand jury indicted him.
Great video