Earn 10-30% pm Safely Trading Forex On Autopilot
Largest drawdown during 19 years back testing and 2 years live testing is 33%
£15 monthly payment is the only up front out of pocket expense
20% of profits paid at the beginning of every month
NO PROFIT YOU DO NOT PAY
Not tied in for any length of time
£1000 minimum deposit in your own ICMarkets broker account
Paypal account is required
Click here to go to facebook group
Account Doubled in 14 weeks
Donate: 18EQEiQBK1X2DyDL5Y18j78iw4NuNHoLej
Featuring…
Tone Vays ( )
Theo Goodman ( )
and Thomas Hunt ( )
THIS WEEK:
—————————-
Stricter Bitcoin Regulation, Ban on Mixers Recommended at Interpol, Europol Conference
Bitcoin Lovers, Thank Beijing
Bitcoin is Abuzz With New Satoshi Nakamoto Rumors
The Wall between US and Mexico May Work out Well for Bitcoin
Please Subscribe to our Youtube Channel
Would you like to support The Bitcoin Group? Donate Bitcoins to:
18EQEiQBK1X2DyDL5Y18j78iw4NuNHoLej
bookmark our slightly empty homepage:
Check us out on Twitter:
or on Google+:
You should also check out the Las Vegas guy (Robert Kahre) who was paying
his contractors in American silver and gold eagles, whose legal tender
values were $1 and $50 respectively, but whose precious metal value was
much higher. The court case calls into question what is the definition of a
dollar. The government likes to be able to define it however it benefits
them and their court case the most.
It is rubbish to say that Hillary supporters, or anyone who would be
against the rich/globalists/industrialists/capitalists, say that anyone who
is rich is a criminal. It is right to say that anyone who didn’t earn the
money themselves, through their own work and sweat, but “earned” that
wealth through exploitation of other working people, that have created the
wealth through their work and productivity, that didn’t earn that money
fairly… and this is 100% true.
To earn something means you must have done some work yourself, put your own
effort and time to create wealth.
Sport people earned their money (if they get really good and earned lot of
money through prise and advertising) because they have put lot of time and
effort, and lot of times their own money, to get there they are.
People that invent something that everyone wants, are also the kind of
people that have earned that wealth as they have again put in time and
effort to invent something, this also lot of times needs their own money to
be invested into the product that they invented.
Now people that do not earn the money themselves are those that simply own
(through inheritance or other means) some business. This means in reality,
these people are simply in possession of the business and everything that
people actually working in that business… the actual wealth created by
their work… and not the owners work. Owning something doesn’t mean you
earned what’s being produced. As much as people that are hired by the owner
need a job to EARN a living, the owner also needs these people to work for
him to be productive. Workplace without the working people is useless, it
doesn’t exist.
Therefore it is the working people that generate all the wealth in business
place, and not the owner. If the owner, say in some smaller business, still
actually keeps a job, and comes to work and does add to the productivity of
the workplace, then that owner did in fact contribute to the wealth
created, and he therefore did earn portion of the wealth created… but the
key word phrase here is, “…earned PORTION of the wealth…”
Do people see now how richest people, simply owning, the global
corporations, actually didn’t contribute to ANY of the wealth created…
all of the wealth created was created by the working class people. But the
working class people have never benefited from their productivity… only
the capitalist owner did.. and this is not just or fair, but is legal…
because the system itself is set up to work in the capitalist favour.
+Ed your comments contain arbitrary judgments and your own moralism. We
don’t decide many things which are foundational from your perspective – for
example, whether someone’s earnings were earned according to our own
expectations. You have assumed a dictator – yourself. You’ve also made a
classic lefty error which is devaluing the naturally longer term
perspectives of investors and employers, and ignoring the risks they incur,
and also ignoring the benefits accrued by workers who are alleviated
(freed) of having to manage the same. That’s important to understand from a
sustainability standpoint. You also seem to misconstrue capitalism as just
another mandatory club, competing against communism. It’s not. Birds and
beavers join no such club in order to accrue their own capital. These and
other errors subsequently compound in your conclusions. I think any who are
skeptical of what you have posted and want to know the mechanics could
start by reviewing the concept of negative rights, take some Austrian
economics with a heavy dose of Hoppe, and touch on r / K selection theory
including its political implications.
Ed wow, nice communist manifesto…I wonder if you ever owned a business
because I do…I pay my workers minimum wage, and many have quit over time.
if current ones complain too much they will get fired. and if by some
miracle New Jersey lowered minimum wage laws, I would lower their salaries
same day. You will have no idea why that is so I’ll tell you. my business
is 3 years old and I have made NO money from it. every day I think about
shutting it down and losing half my savings I put into it (half my saving 3
years ago that is cause right now it would be 80%+ of my savings as I’ve
used the rest to live on while paying people minimum wage). so I keep the
business going to avoid that initial loss and it is slowly picking up (and
by the way, I actually do almost nothing as I am almost never there)…even
if it becomes profitable to the tune of $50k+ per year into my pocket it
will take at least 5 years of me pocketing that money to make up for the
initial investment, the risk i took on and all the opportunity loss of
making money in other ways during all that time (like buying Bitcoin
instead). hence my 2-3 employees will continue making minimum wage even if
they see me take home $100k and if they don’t like it and complain, they
are fired… I’m sure you will see me as exploiter of workers but that is
because you have never ran a small business and only read old books from
Marx, Lenin, Mao and Castro.
Dirty White Cat thanks, well said
That is simply Marxist dogma, riddled with assumptions and moral judgements
that non-Marxists are under no obligation to assume are correct.
the unexpected wealth crime is the quickest way to a war
Some more interesting articles to consider regarding what you guys talked
about:
https://cointelegraph.com/news/eu-imposes-banking-rules-on-cryptocurrencies-without-granting-banking-rights-expert
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-interest-in-netherlands-rises-police-speeds-up-pending-bitcoin-cases
https://cointelegraph.com/news/managed-chaos-why-the-music-industry-needs-blockchain
If the Feds want to put you behind bars then they will put you behind bars.
They will find a reason no matter what you do with your Bitcoins. I hate to
break it to you Tone but the pro-Bitcoin rhetoric coming out of your month
is sure to make you public enemy #1 if Bitcoin is truly the money of
independence.
live injection I may be be public enemy number 1 to both Gov’t & Bitcoiners
but neither one will be able to tie me to amy Bitcoin activity…I might be
scamming all of you by just talking BS and never owning more than a single
Bitcoin at any point in life…my point is that no one should know (and
especially prove) how much you have.
I hope you sync your wallet through TOR x)
Supreme court ruled money is speech. If true, one could argue spending
Bitcoin is political speech. Which is protected under the first.
Thomas Kirwan haha that’s funny, first amendment protection…tell that to
Snowden
@Tone Martyn Skhreli is amazingly nonsense person. There is not a single
bone for sympathy in his body. Trump is another such shithead. He may or
may not raise prices for drugs for other countries. But lets not forget
that there are other manufacturers of drugs around the world who reserve
right to duplicate the drug and sell it to 3rd world country. US can
regulate 3rd world countries selling those drugs in USA but USA can not
regulate sales happening in other countries.
Mandar Karhade I have no problem with Skhreli
Move to nevada, laws much easier..
Rich dudes have been wrong before. The higher the markets go the further
they have to fall. They will call this the Trump bubble.
Tone nailed the fake BTC volume in China due to bots & 0 fees.
I think since the PBOC crackdown the exchanges have started reporting their
volumes more honestly/accurately.
Great show as usual :)
“It’s illegal” – Tone Vays
Monitoring the border with only surveillance is stupid ~ instead of having
a relatively flat cost barrier to solve the issue, you’re relying on
extremely expensive surveillance technology which has recurrent costs.
After 10 years assuming it’s effective, it would have ran up trillions to
maintain. Why do that when you can spend 10 billion (or nothing if Mexico
pays) and then only have to pay for the staff to man/secure it? Just
because we live in a technological world doesn’t mean physical solutions
aren’t sometimes better x)
Tone’s right. Money is a defacto crime which we are expected to prove
ourselves innocent of.
I disagree bitcoin itself can be regulated, The only thing can be regulated
is fiat legal currency. So go buy your socks at overstock and let overstock
worry about regulations on their side.
reminds me of Beavis and Butthead.
@Tone: It’s not the socialists that want to control Bitcoin, it’s the
capitalists. Even Satoshi himself seems a socialist because he invented
Bitcoin after the financial crisis in 2008 when the people had to bail out
the banks and other capitalists because they created a bubble by repacking
debt. He created Bitcoin to counter that. We often agree Tone, but not on
this one.
New fan here
Regulus Healing thanks, usually there are additional guests besides
myself…glad to have you